Joe Rogan and the insanity of normalizing pot (and other drugs)

Joe Rogan has a good podcast. Interesting guests, topics, and a long format that allows topics to be explored in depth and not in dumb soundbites. I also like his free speech stance and his willingness to listen to people he disagrees with. In short, I am regular listener who is glad the podcast is out there.

But one area that Rogan is damn bad for society is in his constant promotion of drugs. He regularly talks about his own drug use (often partaking while doing the show) promoting it as good and beneficial. And in a recent episode featuring Malcolm Gladwell the two of them ranked three cultural taboos: alcohol, tobacco and marijuana.  They agreed that society right now ranks them (starting with the most socially acceptable) as follows:

1- Alcohol (most accepted)
2- Pot
3 - Smoking (least accepted)

But then they argued that the order should be reworked to make marijuana the most accepted and alcohol the least accepted. Rogan went on a long rant after that explaining how he occasionally enjoys a cigarette but thinks they are so bad for society that he cannot bring himself to admit this. He says that alcohol gives him similar qualms. But... he says marijuana is so good for everyone that he thinks everyone should use it. It makes you a better person. More humble. More self aware. He also said that shrooms are good for everyone.

This is insanity. It is an insanity that Rogan has suffered with for a while. Gladwell agreeing was surprising (I didn't take him for a pothead). Let me explain why normalizing and recommending pot use is a terrible terrible thing for any society to do.

The fact that so many people believe that pot use is harmless is a funny thing - it shows that the pot head propaganda worked. The medical world is ambivalent at best and often quite concerned about the effects of pot. But enough potheads had genius arguments like, "it just chills me out man," or "no one beats up his wife on pot," that the concerns of the medical world were set aside and a full on embrace of the drug is starting to take place. Our society is so dumb that we heard arguments from the potheads and arguments from doctors and said, "I am going to trust the potheads on this one."

Well.. for those of you that agree this is dumb, here are some potential side effects of pot use that medical science has revealed. The following are from the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA):

1. Pot makes you dumber
From NIDA,

"[A] a study from New Zealand conducted in part by researchers at Duke University showed that people who started smoking marijuana heavily in their teens and had an ongoing marijuana use disorder lost an average of 8 IQ points between ages 13 and 38. The lost mental abilities didn't fully return in those who quit marijuana as adults. Those who started smoking marijuana as adults didn't show notable IQ declines."

While I am not a fan of IQ, I think any substance that causes the same group of people to lose brain function (on any test) is scary.

2. Pot makes you insane

Pot head propagandists always say that alcohol leads to people getting rowdy, in fights, swearing, getting in trouble.... and they are right. In general, alcohol can get you in trouble on any given night if you drink too much. But alcohol leaves your system quickly. If you moderate, you are fine.

But pot can make you crazy for more than a single wild night. It has been shown to contribute to a variety of mental disorders.NIDA says that it has the effect of, "worsening symptoms in patients with schizophrenia—a severe mental disorder with symptoms such as hallucinations, paranoia, and disorganized thinking." They go onto say that, "Marijuana use has also been linked to other mental health problems, such as depression, anxiety, and suicidal thoughts among teens."

3. Pot makes you a lazy unhappy loser

The legalized pot in my state a while back and on the first day it was legal, there was a long line of people outside the dispensery waiting to buy legal pot. I had forgotten that pot was just legalized and wondered what the long line of people were waiting for. Just observing the people I thought, "boy, that is a rough crowd." They were 30-40 year old people with disheveled clothing, uncombed hair, and t-shirts with 80s rock band logos. They looked like people that got stuck in their teenage years and never grew out of them. A crowd of greying Bevis and Buttheads.

And according to NIDA, this is not a coincidence,

"Compared to those who don't use marijuana, those who frequently use large amounts report the following:

- lower life satisfaction
- poorer mental health
- poorer physical health
- more relationship problems

People also report less academic and career success."

Nice. No harmful effects there. They also note that "marijuana use is linked to a higher likelihood of dropping out of school. It's also linked to more job absences, accidents, and injuries."

4. Pot makes loser societies

 Due to religious and cultural reasons, some societies prohibit alcohol but allow marijuana. Here are some regions that utilize pot as a socially acceptable drug of choice:

2-Northern Africa 

In contrast, the places where alcohol is socially acceptable represent countries such as:


I know that correlation doesn't equal causation but can this at least show us that we can absolutely say that a society can function and excel with alcohol as the drug of choice but that there is no evidence that a society can achieve similar success with pot as the drug of choice?

And this brings me to my last point:

5. Pot is a Pandora's box

The last issue I have with pot is the absolutely unproven nature of it. We know the effects of alcohol on a society. Western Europe and the US have had widespread use of alcohol throughout our rise to global dominance. Our nations have developed science, technology, the concept of universal human rights, classical music, film, medicine, and countless other things that have changed the world for the better. Say what you want about the dangers of alcohol (I acknowledge that drunkenness can hurt individuals and families), you cannot claim that a society cannot function when it is widely used.

But we are doing an experiment... opening Pandora's box... testing whether the same can be said of a society of potheads. The data show that there are concerns with physical, mental, and emotional effects but what else is there? What other things will we learn from this society wide experiment in drug taking?

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. People that do not understand that old is almost always better in almost all cases, are the ones making the case for pot over alcohol. They think that their own personal experiences with pot will somehow transfer to the whole of society. Read Taleb on the risks of introducing new things into our diet and health without generations of trials and observations. Just introducing something based on the testimony of pot head propagandists is insane.

Which makes sense. Insanity is one of the side effects of too much pot.


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